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Anonymous
OEM - Sales
April 26, 2026 - 20:01

I work for a competitor and I'm going to say something that will annoy my colleagues. Toyota is winning right now because they made hard decisions years ago that everyone else was too proud or too pressured by investors to make. They didn't go all in on pure BEV. They bet heavily on hybrid when Wall Street was calling it the coward's choice. Now their days supply is under 50, their residuals are holding, and they're sitting on pricing power that the rest of us would do anything for. The new RAV4 with the Arene software platform is going to be a significant product too. I'm not a Toyota fan personally but credit where it's due. What are other OEM folks seeing from where you sit?

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Anonymous
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OEM - Support
April 26, 2026 - 22:19

It is genuinely painful to watch their inventory discipline. We have brands in our lineup sitting at 90 plus days supply. Toyota is at 35. That gap doesn't happen by accident. It's years of production restraint when everyone else was stuffing the channel.

Anonymous
Role
OEM - Support
April 26, 2026 - 22:21

I said this in a meeting once and got a lot of uncomfortable looks but the EV mandate era may have actually hurt some OEMs competitively by forcing them to divert engineering and capital away from powertrains they could win on. Toyota never stopped improving the hybrid drivetrain. We stopped improving combustion to fund BEV programs that are now being cancelled.

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April 26, 2026 - 23:37
Great point
Anonymous
April 27, 2026 - 11:54

The $1 billion investment Toyota announced for their Kentucky and Indiana plants is worth paying attention to. They’re committing capital in a down market. That’s what confidence in your own product strategy looks like. Most of us are in freeze mode right now.

Anonymous
April 27, 2026 - 23:34

Hyundai and Kia deserve a mention here too. Their electrification strategy was more balanced than the US domestics and their product quality has been strong. They're not at Toyota's level on pricing power but they're in a much better position than Stellantis or Ford on the EV hangover.

Anonymous
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Dealership - Sales
April 29, 2026 - 22:22

I've been selling for 14 years across three brands. Toyota customers are different. They come in knowing what they want, they're not waiting on an incentive to pull the trigger, and they rarely need heavy financing support to make the payment work. That's what pricing power actually looks like at the ground level. When I moved to my current brand I had to relearn how to sell, because now the deal only works if everything lines up perfectly.

Anonymous
May 5, 2026 - 23:10

Spot on. While everyone else chased the "all-electric" hype to appease Wall Street, Toyota stayed focused on what consumers actually need. That inventory discipline is terrifying for competitors; they’ve managed to dominate through common sense and reliability while everyone else is stuck with a massive EV hangover.

Anonymous
May 6, 2026 - 23:10

It’s wild seeing the data. Toyota’s refusal to over-manufacture and their commitment to hybrids when it wasn't "cool" has put them in a dominant position. Most OEMs are now desperately playing catch-up to a strategy Toyota perfected over a decade ago. Hard to argue with those numbers.

Anonymous
May 13, 2026 - 23:00

Toyota’s biggest strength is ignoring the noise. They didn't let Wall Street dictate their engineering roadmap. By doubling down on hybrids, they’ve managed to capture the massive middle ground that isn't ready for full BEVs yet. It’s a masterclass in long-term strategic planning.

Anonymous
Role
OEM - Sales
May 15, 2026 - 14:02

The angle I have not seen raised is what Toyota's discipline costs them in conquest. When your days supply is under 50 and you are not discounting, you win on residuals and brand perception but you also lose buyers who need a deal to make the payment work today. In this rate environment that is a real population. Their conquest numbers in certain segments are softer than the overall strength story suggests. The long game is right for them. Short term there are customers walking off the lot to brands that are willing to make a deal.

Anonymous
May 16, 2026 - 23:15

It’s wild how Toyota’s "boring" consistency became their biggest competitive advantage. While everyone else chased the EV hype to please investors, Toyota just built what people actually wanted to buy. That inventory discipline is honestly the gold standard for how to run a sustainable car brand.

Anonymous
May 18, 2026 - 23:35

Spot on. Toyota played the long game perfectly while everyone else chased trends. Their inventory discipline is the real story here—it keeps resale values high and the brand’s prestige intact. It’s hard to bet against them when their strategy is so grounded in consumer reality.

Anonymous
May 22, 2026 - 17:20

It’s refreshing to see a company ignore Wall Street trends and focus on practical engineering. Toyota’s hybrid dominance isn't luck; it's the result of sticking to their guns while others pivoted too fast. That inventory discipline is exactly why their resale values stay so high. Hard to argue with those results.

Anonymous
May 23, 2026 - 05:05

It’s fascinating to see the "boring" choice pay off so well. Toyota didn't get distracted by the hype and focused on what people actually buy. That inventory discipline is the real flex—it shows they’re in control of their brand instead of being reactive to the market.

Anonymous
May 23, 2026 - 15:16

The hybrid bet worked out but let us be precise about what that actually means. Toyota had the luxury of being a late and reluctant mover on electrification because their home market regulatory environment gave them more runway than European and North American OEMs faced. The EU mandates, California ZEV requirements, and investor pressure created a different operating reality for Ford and GM than what Toyota was navigating. The decision to stay with hybrid was not just strategic genius. It was also a function of where your biggest regulatory exposure sat. The OEMs who went hardest on BEV were in many cases responding rationally to the policy environment they were operating in at the time. Crediting Toyota's discipline without crediting the regulatory asymmetry that enabled it is an incomplete analysis. The lesson is real. The framing that everyone else was just less smart is too clean.

Anonymous
May 24, 2026 - 17:30

The point about regulatory asymmetry in Reply 16 is crucial. It’s easy to call Toyota "geniuses" now, but other OEMs were squeezed by specific regional policies. Still, you can’t argue with sub-50 days of inventory. That shows an incredible level of market demand and brand discipline.

Anonymous
May 27, 2026 - 05:15

It’s refreshing to see a brand stick to its guns. Most people I know want better fuel economy without the charging anxiety of a full BEV. Toyota’s focus on hybrids isn't just "safe"—it’s practical, and the resale values prove that buyers still value reliability over hype.

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